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The essentials of the RAD diet are as follows: Lower consumption of pasteurized dairy products, animal protein and fats, simple sugars and carbohydrates (low glycemic), salt and wheat or processed flour products, while enriching the diet with organic fruits, vegetables, whole grains and healthy proteins. Avoid foods that contain lots of chemicals such as artificial preservatives, flavors, fake sweeteners like aspartame, colors and stabilizers which includes most prepared, packaged and fast foods. A lot of packaged foods have advanced glycation end products or AGEs that can cause damage in the body and increase the risk for diabetes and alzheimers. Cooked foods also have AGEs so raw foodists also support lowering your AGE consumption.
1. Lower fat consumption as fats are absorbed directly into the lymphatics. 2. Eat low glycemic index foods to lower insulin levels - insulin makes fat grow. 3. Eat lots of fresh vegetables that have enzymes that are absorbed into the lymphatics and in essence "roto-rooter" out the stagnant protein. You can add enzymes with advice from your healthcare provider. 4. Lower your salt intake if you are able so you retain less water/fluid. 5. Each time we eat we generate inflammation as the lymph system surrounds the gut. Rest the gut by takig a day off and eating liquid type foods such as soups, stews (without meat or at least with pulled meats), smoothies, protein shakes, applesauce, juiced vegetables and fruits. ENJOY!
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8/16/2018 02:55:51 pm
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12/30/2019 05:43:57 pm
Hi Selma, I had a 5CM Lipoma removed that was pushing my stomach up into my esophagus and causing scarring in my esophagus. Doctors thought they were just repairing a normal hiatal hernia and didn't realize the lipoma was there until they went in for surgery. Just wanted to share my story with you. 11/23/2021 01:28:40 am
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6/27/2012 02:02:21 pm
I can remember this! Lol. Number five was something i never thought about. I have tested negative for food allergies, but soy, for instance gives me diarrhea. Is this an absorption issue? 6/27/2012 10:48:56 pm
Selma: I am not sure what disorder you have. When the stomach pushes up around the esophagus that is usually a hiatal hernia, not a lipoma.
Faith Morgan
6/28/2012 03:07:58 am
Thank you, that finally makes sense. I am definitely "sensitive" to a lot of things...... have good weeks and bad days with the diet, but that is an improvement.
Britt Christensen
9/13/2012 06:39:44 pm
Karen, I have lipedema and the RAD diet is a new thing to me. Living in Denmark, Im on my own with this condition, even my doctor didnt know what lipedema was. 9/13/2012 11:28:04 pm
Hi Britt. Everyone is different and no diet can match everyone's genetics, lifestyle and environment. Yoghurt is alive and is one of the foods that I think is reasonable to eat on the RAD diet as it also supplies calcium, which is better absorbed from our food than from supplemental calcium pills. Raw cheese in moderation would be ok (two small cubes the size of dice daily). It has to say "Raw" on the label so this cheese is again alive. Milk if low fat supplies protein, calcium, and vitamin D so is ok, again in moderation, but milk activates the immune system. So many people (but not all) with RADs have elevated immune (inflammatory) responses to dairy. There are no studies telling us what will happen to your legs if you eat yoghurt daily and drink one glass of milk a night. The RAD diet has really helped a lot of people lose weight and feel better. You are the best judge of what works for you. The RAD diet is a guide. Happy and healthy eating!
Shawndrill Williams
10/9/2012 03:43:52 am
Karen,
Bob Allyn
11/6/2012 03:38:05 am
I clearly have Dercum's but my Heath Care provider (which is also the insurance company) refuses to diagnose it. Also, they don't refer to nutritionists without a diagnosis, so I can't talk with a nutritionist or dietician either.
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2/11/2013 01:13:30 pm
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Jennifer
2/22/2013 12:44:19 am
I can not find a chart anywhere that has what to eat and what not to eat. 12/29/2015 07:18:39 am
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2/23/2013 10:51:33 am
I have Lipedema and I can't seem to find a physician here in the metropolitan area of DC to work with. I will go for my regular physical with my GP this week. How do you suggest I educate my doctor on helping me with treatment? Also, is it suggested to take before and after pictures of hips, thighs, and butt before getting any type of treatement done? I have a physical therapist that is willing to give me treatments 3 days a week for 45 mins. Should I go for 4 weeks or extend it to 6 weeks.
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3/17/2013 02:16:30 pm
Tell your Dr to google lipoedema.
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3/21/2013 09:07:40 am
Thank you.
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3/17/2013 11:04:45 am
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I was recently diagnosed with lipedema and have lots of questions and concerns.
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4/24/2013 12:31:00 pm
hello Karen...I have accumulated more and more lipomas throughout my body since my early twenties...I'm now 58 and I think I'm well up to 100, arms, legs, stomach, neck and for some reason many now on my back. They are not painful all the time, just when I roll on my hips, or poke at them, but for the most part they are just rubbery different shapes and sizes from pea to golf ball. I've had 4 removed and they haven't grown back. My doctor continues to tell me she is not concerned, just that some people get more than others and is willing to pop them out whenever I want to. I have next to none in my family. From my reading it seems I must have multiple lipomas not DD because most aren't painful...is that right? I did find one article suggesting hypnosis and was wondering if that was something you recommend. I'm not sure why that would work but I don't understand these things. I find myself so fixated on them and continue to see more and more. This is the first time I've seen anything on diet so I'm wondering what kind of research you have done with diet and multiple lipomas. I am willing to try anything to make these shrink....any suggestions? I've read that even if you loose weight they don't shrink. Is this true? I'm about 30 pounds overweight. It's so refreshing to find your website and know that someone is working on this as it does seem so common. Is there somewhere I can read more about them regarding your research findings? Thank you for any suggestions you can give.
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5/3/2013 01:06:02 am
Hi Dr. Herbst, for RAD dieters do you believe juicing to be a better option over smoothies made from blended fruits, vegetables, flax, and water/ice only? Or would doing both per day provide more relief and assist the body with toxin removal than only doing one or the other?
Barbara Aureli
6/3/2013 06:51:09 am
Dr. Herbst, How do I go about finding a doctor in/around Syracuse, NY? Do I look for an endocrinologist?
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11/22/2022 04:04:03 pm
Did you ever find someone in Syracuse to diagnose you?
Jamie
6/21/2013 05:04:20 am
I have always tested allergic to dairy. I stayed away from it for ten years, but then started eating again when I tested allergic to everything and just thought it was pointless. Since I started eating it again I have had these painful lipomas and angiolipomas everywhere, and I feel so sick to my stomach and lightheaded. I stopped eating it again two days ago and I am starting to feel better. I still have the pain in the lipomas, but the nausea and lightheaded feeling are much better, and the eczema I always have on my hands is gone, as well as the pain and swelling in my hands. It is definitely worth it to get tested for allergies since it can cause inflammation. 6/27/2013 06:10:41 pm
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Hence I started eating it encore I retain had these irksome lipomas moreover angiolipomas ubiquitous, plus I perceive so ailing to my appetite further lightheaded. I stopped eating it afresh couple times back moreover I am starting to sense superior. I nevertheless contain the ache in the lipomas, nevertheless the disgust further lightheaded attitude are many advance, furthermore the eczema I always bear on my employees is gone, as well as the agony besides lump in my workers.
Sheila Wise
7/15/2013 07:57:03 am
Hi Karen, I wanted to let you know that I tried to make an appointment with you and they told me they weren't taking any more appointments at UCSD as you were leaving. Only to get a call a couple of weeks later that I missed my appointment with you that previous Monday. I was so disappointed that I actually had one of your last appointments and didn't know it :( SUPER bummed. You are such a blessing to everyone and San Diego is going to miss you greatly. I wish you wonderful things in Tucson. I'm wondering though, is there anyone to follow up with here in SD? Thanks Karen! 7/15/2013 08:02:58 am
Hi Sheila: I have no recommendations for my replacement in San Diego. I designed my practice based on my research and no one else has taken up the band wagon.
Linda
7/28/2013 09:03:02 am
Hello dr Karen - I am a self diagnosed lipedema case - I have the classic lower legs and upper arms issue - my question is, is it lipedema if it never hurts? I read lipdma is considered a painful fat syndrome . 7/29/2013 04:19:13 am
Hi Linda: Lipedema fat does not always hurt. In some people wit lipedema that have non-painful fat, if I can find a small firmer bead of fat and gently compress it, there is pain. The greater the inflammation, the more the pain. The greater the fluid in the fat, the more inflammation, the greater the pain. 7/29/2013 04:19:36 am
Hi Linda: Lipedema fat does not always hurt. In some people wit lipedema that have non-painful fat, if I can find a small firmer bead of fat and gently compress it, there is pain. The greater the inflammation, the more the pain. The greater the fluid in the fat, the more inflammation, the greater the pain.
Brenda P.
7/29/2013 06:59:10 am
Dr. Herbst,
Linda
7/29/2013 06:59:19 pm
Thank you dr Karen .... Yes... I do have just one lump on my lower leg that hurts when squeezed or pressed on....
Brenda P
8/1/2013 03:43:10 am
Dr. Karen,
Michele Q.
12/16/2013 10:38:00 am
Hi Brenda. You mentioned something about raised veins on your scalp. Is this a symptom of lymphedema? Is it painful? I ask because I have lymphedema and I have been having pains on my head. I did not know if the pains were veins or if they were the nerves. Usually if I rub the lumps it relieves the pain a bit. 8/2/2013 02:43:17 am
Hi Brenda P.
Brenda P.
8/2/2013 03:31:56 am
Thank you Dr. Karen for the response. I look forward to getting an appointment with you.
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8/6/2013 04:37:37 pm
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Lark
8/10/2013 01:17:19 am
Dear Dr. Herbst, 8/10/2013 10:01:20 am
Hi Lark: I know of three people with scleroderma and Dercum's disease or Madelung's disease. I can see how one can have the fat disorder first then develop scleroderma or vice versa especially if the scleroderma causes fibrosis of the lymphatic endings causing lymph fluid to back up and the fat cells to grow in response. I hope that helps.
Lark
8/11/2013 12:46:23 am
Thank you. I will be buying several supplements/Cimetidine today to try to halt progression. For unknown reasons to me, rapid lipoma/swelling is currently developing; previously a far slower progression.
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8/29/2013 11:17:24 am
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Question: This diet seems to be most beneficial for lowering inflammation for the more painful rad's such as Dercum's, but is this useful at all for people with Multiple Familial Lipomatosis? Technically FML is a rad, but do the same mechanisms that exacerbate tumors in DD apply to tumors in FML? It drives me CRAZY that i can't find any reliable information about the causes behind FML, even if the answer is: "WE DON'T KNOW" PLEASE HELP!
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4/5/2015 11:11:46 am
Do you know of any doctors in Minnesota who diagnose/treat patients with Lipedema? Thank you
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5/1/2015 09:43:01 am
Suppose a person has Dercum's Disease and IGG subtype deficiency (subtypes 2 and 4 in my case). A person with IGG deficiency can get IGG replaced by IV Infusion or Subcutaneously. The subcutaneous route is by injections into the fat near the person's belly button (perhaps there's other ways, but that's what they're telling me).
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5/16/2015 07:29:36 pm
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5/18/2015 09:30:07 am
Hello Becky, I also have Dercums disease, have had to quit working, I was a waitress and a massage therapist. If you would like, you can get me on Facebook. I would love to be a part of your support group.
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Hi Becky, My mom is in Boise and I think she may have a fat disorder (tons of lipomas, docs say "normal"). Would you mind sharing the doc you found? Thank you very much. 6/4/2015 10:43:29 am
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I notice that you recommend a low fat diet because the dietary fats are absorbed by the lymphatics. Has there been any evidence that people with adipose tissue disorders have dysfunctional abdominal lymphatics? I think you are conflating dietary fat and adipose tissue when making this recommendation. An interesting study would be to perform IC green imaging of abdominal lymphatics in individuals with lipedema, then have one group eat low carb high fat and another group eat the RAD diet, and then image the abdominal lymphatics again. Other outcome measures could be % body fat, weight, and limb volume.
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The RAD diet says reduce animal fats because fats are absorbed directly into the lymphatic system. Should other fats such as dairy and olive oil be avoided for the same reason? Do we know that fat in the lymphatic for lipoedema sufferers is bad? We know saturated fat is not good for health generally but I'm struggling to understand the RAD diet and apply that understanding to all my intake. My lipoedema is getting worse in terms of pain and I am trying to lose weight and help the lipoedema inflammation but finding so many contradictory diet advice.
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11/21/2015 07:57:47 am
I have a similar question about fats. In one of the research papers from Dr. Herbst it said that DD patients could possible benefit from fish oil. So, is it only some fats that are problematic to DD?
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I have been diagnosed with DD by Dr. Herbst about 3 years ago. I was hit by a car in June and have needed body work but often I flair up after. Has anyone found body work that is helpful and not flair them up? 12/7/2015 03:34:15 am
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